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Zero Philosophy's avatar

Origin of quantum mechanics in diagonal method, from Carlo Rovelli's Helgoland:

"Heisenberg's idea is to write all the quantities which describe the movement of the electron -- position, velocity, energy -- no longer as numbers, but as tables of numbers. Instead of having a single position x for the electron, we have an entire table of possible positions X: one for every possible leap. ..."

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Tomas's avatar

Read this very carefully boy

You are sitting on your old arse, nick, touching your clit every time you turn on your fucking PC. Take a walk mate. Have a look around you, sunshine. Is this absolute evil, this ABSOLUTE EVIL, WHICH YOU HAVE NURTURED AND DEFENDED IN THE FACE OF ALL LOGIC AND ETHICS, AND I'M TELLING YOU BOY, THE RESULTS ARE THERE TO BE OBSERVED. MAYBE IF YOU "COME BACK" FROM "CHINA" YOU'LL REALISE WE'RE IN A BIT OF A MESS. BACKTRACK ACCELERATIONISM IN PUBLIC, OR I WILL CONTINUE TO HUMILIATE YOU ON YOUR OWN BLOG AS LONG AS IT PLEASES ME.

TOMAS, OF THE HOUSES JOHNSON (WALLACE), THE HOUSE OF DUNN (ancient kings of Ireland), THE HOUSE OF BOURKE (installed by William the conqueror as the KINGS OF IRELAND), AND THE SINGING HOUSE OF WHISTLER. SUCK MY DICK

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PulsatingShadow's avatar

Wondering if eastern countries would have arrived at a Wu Xing inspired pentamorphic compass.

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Zero Philosophy's avatar

Drawing diagonal lines through pentagons seems needlessly complicated.

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Tomas's avatar

Bitch

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Tomas's avatar

Your "work" is 20% name dropping, the rest worthless synonym generative wankery with all the worthlessness and stupidity of a left wing undergrad ALSO trying to copy Marx's bombasticism and popularity

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Tomas's avatar

Keep wondering about it you useless fool. Marx might be my bitch too, but at least he had some idea that pragmatics and philosophy might be bear some relationship to each other and human behaviour, in other words do something useful hack

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PulsatingShadow's avatar

As I have been told, the alchemists were split between the five and four element system which was what I was referring to here. It could also be interpreted as the tension between the five external senses and the four inner senses. 5::4 has always been a very important lemur as has the relation between theory and practice. If you have anything useful to add, go ahead.

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Weedium Gualguainis's avatar

where the hell does that come from, he mentioned nothing alchemic of the sorts

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PulsatingShadow's avatar

What elements you believe do or don't exist is a major part of how you perceive the world. The distinction between the four and five systems (we can say Aristotelian or Platonic systems, respectively, with their rivalries notably playing out through idealists and materialists/pragmatists throughout the ages) is the addition of the element known as Aether, which most closely corresponds to the concept of "hype" in Land's philosophy, elsewhere as "loosh" or the Gnostic "spark". I am bringing up Alchemy because it is the process of transmutation, which deals with how these elements turn into one another. Again, I was originally pointing out that the Chinese had a five element system and might have built something that looked like a five-sided Chinese checker board for a graphing system because of the dominance of Wu Xing, which happens to be an Alchemical system. This would have been an example of philosophy (or Chinese "religion" or whatever you want to call it) impacting the development of data visualization systems, which are considered to be quite practical things. Unlike Tomas here. Apparently all they can do is speak harshly, one would wonder if they've ever done anything useful at all with that kind of behavior.

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Al Eric's avatar

很搞笑的一点是我对西藏密宗、基督教神秘主义(艾克哈特大师、十字若望)和赫耳墨斯主义与布拉格术士感兴趣。

相比于阴阳五行我更喜欢全息视角和虚拟现实,前者经常让我联想起北大教授雷奕安这种古怪的人。如果你想要拓宽视野可以看看顾城的《南明史》和雷海宗的书,看强世功和阎学通甚至艾跃进也行,我是不怎么看,他们的粉丝不会出现在这个地方,几乎只用中文交流写作,而我的多语言表达系统是割裂的。

The funny thing is that I am interested in Tibetan tantricism, Christian mysticism (Meister Eckhart, Cross Jorman, Georges Bataille ) and Hermesism and Prague Alchemist .

Compared with the five elements of yin and yang, I prefer the holographic perspective and virtual reality.(Qualia, Simulation and even crazy Wolfram’s complex system of hyper-graph ) The former often reminds me of an eccentric person like Lei Yi'an, a professor at Peking University. If you want to broaden your horizons, you can read Gu Cheng's History of the Southern Ming Dynasty and Lei Haizong's books. You can also read Qiang Shigong and Yan Xuetong. I don't read it very much. Their fans will not appear in this place. They almost only communicate and write in Chinese, and my multilingual expression system is broken.(I don’t read Sinologist’s paper(庄士敦或李约瑟之类) and I don’t write propaganda for China.I love strength and conditioning,Bourbons, wine, Lem and Kurzweil.etc.

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Al Eric's avatar

你可以在Steam上购买“太吾绘卷”“鬼谷八荒”“中国式家长”“古剑奇谭”“仙剑奇侠传”“港诡实录”“喜丧”或者看电视剧“鬼吹灯”“长安十二时辰”“东京梦华录”等等,那里有一些数据可视化或模型。书籍可以看“聊斋志异”“山海经”“抱朴子”。

一般来说非儒释道的宗教要么被打压要么是秘传的,比如五斗米、白莲教、明教、曹操与房中术、竹林七贤与五石散、汉武帝与承露盘等等,所以很难看到一些有价值的信息。目前的审查算法也很严格,甚至不能上传伊朗肚皮舞。“南朝四百八十寺,多少楼台烟雨中”,很多唐宋甚至以前的遗产都在战乱中消失了,礼乐早就失传了。你可以去山西陕西河南看一些遗迹,虽然很多内容都不怎么古老甚至是新建的。

You can buy "Taiwu Picture Scroll", "Ghost Valley Eight Wilds", "Chinese Parent", "Ancient Sword Qitan", "Fairy Sword and Chivalrous Biography", "Hong Kong Mystery Record", "Happy Mourning" on Steam or watch the TV series "Ghost Blowing Lantern", "Chang'an Twelve O'clock", "Tokyo北宋东京Dream Record", etc. There are some data visualizations or models. You can read "Liao Zhai Zhi Yi" and "Shanhaijing" in the books.

Generally speaking, non-Confucian religions are either suppressed or secretive, such as Wudoumi, Bailianism, Mingism, Cao Cao and Fangzhongshu, Zhulin Qixian and Wushisan, Emperor Wu of Han and Chenglupan, etc., so it is difficult to see some valuable information. The current review algorithm is also very strict, and you can't even upload Iranian belly dance. Four hundred and eighty temples in the Southern Dynasty, how many floors and platforms in the smoke and rain", many Tang and Song Dynasties and even previous heritages have disappeared in the war. You can go to Shanxi, Shaanxi and Henan to see some relics, although many of the contents are not very old or even newly built.

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Al Eric's avatar

我接受的教育是:清代的八股文、文字狱和军机处禁锢了思想。诸如陈胜吴广的农民暴乱是人民阶级斗争的一部分。义和团是爱国主义。近现代史主要由党史、抗日战争、苏联援助、三线建设、改革开放和伟大复兴颠覆近代耻辱组成。

旧思想被视为封建余孽牛鬼蛇神。科举被视为小资产阶级小农经济。笔墨纸砚书法绘画和园林是一种江南或老干部情趣,现在有好玩的汉服、民乐、网剧和游戏。

古代的思想你可以看看南怀瑾和倪海厦。他们是离现在比较近的人。我是一个热衷科学技术、Wired杂志、现代艺术的人,不会使用生肖、农历和中医,很多概念是古汉语特有的,甚至没有被汉学家翻译。

The education I received was that the eight-stock text(八股文), the writing prison and the military aircraft in the Qing Dynasty imprisoned thought. Peasant riots such as Chen Sheng and Wu Guang are part of the people's class struggle. The Whehe Corps(义和团) is patriotic. Modern history is mainly composed of Party history(myth of CCP), the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, Soviet assistance, three-line construction, reform and opening up, and the great rejuvenation to subvert the shame of modern times.

The old thought is regarded as the remnant of feudalism. The subject examination is regarded as the economy of small-bourgeois peasants. Brush, ink, paper, ink(砚), calligraphy, painting and gardening are a kind of Jiangnan(江南) or old cadres' interest. Now there are interesting Hanfu, folk music, online dramas and games(e.g.鬼谷八荒).

You can look at Nan Huaijin and Ni Haixia in ancient thought. They are people who are close to the present. I am a person who is passionate about science and technology, Wired magazines and modern art. I can't use the zodiac, lunar calendar and traditional Chinese medicine. Many concepts are unique to ancient Chinese and have not even been translated by Sinologists.

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Al Eric's avatar

道家炼丹师没有发明出玻璃自然也没有显微镜和实验观测、除了中医世家没人知道汤剂合适的比例、天文学钦天监没有利玛窦的技巧、毛笔绘制的解剖学并不细致。

但有一些天人感应、黄道吉日、建筑设计风水和关于本体感觉的气功四体通达类的学说。还有些其他的学说,会被士大夫和共产党清除。比如“五通神”和唯物史观的宗教政策。

Taoist alchemists did not invent glass, and naturally did not have microscopes and experimental observations. Except for the traditional Chinese medicine family, no one knew the appropriate proportion of decoctions. Astronomical Qin Tianjian did not have the skills of Rimardo, and the anatomy drawn by the brush was not detailed.

However, there are some doctrines of heaven-man induction(祥瑞), auspicious day of the zodiac, architectural design feng shui and Qigong four-body Tongda class about ontological feeling.(渺渺兮、沧浪之水清、冯虚御风)There are some other doctrines that will be eliminated by scholars(士大夫) and the Communist Party. For example, the religious policy and the materialist historical view.

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Vittu Perkele's avatar

Ok, but how is this not just the dialectic? It seems like all you've done is taken Hegel and repackaged him in mathematical/analytic school terminology. Is that the joke, this "continentalism in analytic terms" itself being a diagonalization/dialectical contradiction?

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william proudler's avatar

Hegel’s dialectic is teleological, diagonalisation is not. Contradictions are part of the dialectic process for Hegel, whereas diagonalisation wants to explore contradictions and challenge paradoxes. Hegel premiers the synthesis, but diagonalisation keeps going.

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Tomas's avatar

So exploring contradictions and challenging paradoxes isn't part of Hegel's dialect... You people are fucking ridiculous

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Tomas's avatar

Oh did you block me little one, or do you not accept messages to your big black tower? Debate me you fucking bitch

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Tomas's avatar

G'day you fucking coward,

Thanks for screwing with my fucking security forces, this is Tomas of the houses Johnson, Dunn, Whistler and Bourke. You mate not only manage to make pointing out the bloody obvious into near unintelligible borderline anti-newspeak (philosophically it IS newspeak, just to make sure you don't get the wrong idea here you fuckwit). Accelerate a bullet through your fucking temples mate, your fucking is not only not working it is the height of counterproductive. It will take a prospect with balls (or not, you fucking cunt) to finish this shit or get the ministry/ CIA or whomever to actually do something constructive. Part of what you ignore in your fucking disposition mate, is fucking basic psychology. Have a bunch of spies sit around fucking with other people, in the throne of God himself as judge of the human race, and yeah you know what they kind of turn into arseholes. So thanks for fucking it up old man. Die

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Paul E. Nash's avatar

What would be an example of the diagonal method at play in the life sciences?

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QKFPZQUT's avatar

Friston's free energy principle (diagonalizing between organicism and mechanism) especially in its usage by Levin and Fields.

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